in CamRock (Moderator: TheMayor1)

Incorrect, The filter to an expert area should mimic the hardest feature on the trail, the beginning of the filter should have a low penalty if you can not make the beginning then you have a low penallty. As the case with the filter to the outback.

Not to bicker about this but since you insist - the IMBA definition is
"A trail filter, sometimes referred to as a gateway or qualifier, is a high-skill-level, low-consequence obstacle that demonstrates the difficulty of the upcoming trail or trail feature. "

There is nothing about "a low consequence at the beginning but if you can get past the very beginning of the feature, finishing the feature brings much higher penalty".  That makes no sense.  It's one continuous feature, not a series of progressively difficult tests.  Once you're started on the Outback filter, there's no good way to stop on it and ponder whether you should keep going or stop.  You may recall that one of our riders broke his arm on it last year.

AH back at you,
That is why the beginning of the outback filter is so narrow with a step up, this is the low penality, high skills part of the feature.
"A filter at the gateway to an expert area should mimic the most difficult feature encountered on the expert trail" As expert trails are not required to have any by pass and no easyier way. Expert features can be of any size, height and tread width, The begining of any FEATURE( not filter) should have a low penality, high skill entrance thus allowing the oppertunity for less skilled riders a chance for failure without penility. Whistler. We have  as a guideline, built filters into our features including the gateway filter.
Thanks
TTF  Steward.

I'm telling you guys, if you want to be able to ride any wooden feature with ease, learn to track stand.  I see comments of how fast do I need to go and having momentum.  It's so easy, really just learn to trackstand, trust me.  I can ride the filter forward and backward and stop at any point (almost) balance there and then continue going.  If you can trackstand well your technical abilities will automatically like double.  If you can get your hands on a fixie it's a lot easier to learn, anybodies more than welcome to ride mine and I know there's one for sale on this forum.  If anybody wants to go ride that stuff with me I will gladly help anybody along as I want people to get good at ttf so it can start increasing in dificulty.

That is a good point though, there is like no ttf anywhere on the trail and then it's like bam, the filter and most people are like holy crap.  There is no build up to it and unless you walk around it and practice on easier stuff what are people to do?

My understanding of a filter is that if you can ride it you can ride everything in the trail, therefore by that definition it would have to be harder than everything in the trail.  Think about it.  I think the filter is appropriate for the trail.

try this move across the big log ride in outback, should get your juices flowing.

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That is a great idea, I will start trying to front wheel manual down of off it instead of regular manualing down it or jumping the ramp completely.