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    Because the Mountain Biking scene in Madison is dead...

    TheMayor1
    Trail Steward - CamRock
    Trail Steward
    608-772-7833

    August 14, 2013, 12:02 PM

    Just kidding. One MORE thing going on. And this is going on today (8/14).

    The Giant Demo is today from 3:00 to 7:30! Test ride some awesome bikes then come back to CamRock Cafe for tasty brews or food! If you like what you ride let us know and as long as they are in stock we can order one for you. Let us know that you came to the demo and we'll give you 10% of the retail on the bike.

    Go here for more detailed info:
    https://www.facebook.com/CamRockSport


    ~ Chuck Hutchens


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    TheMayor1
    Trail Steward - CamRock
    Trail Steward
    608-772-7833

    August 14, 2013, 12:52 PM

    I don't know the specifics of what they will have. But since they are trying to sell next years models I would sure as heck think so...


    ~ Chuck Hutchens


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    August 15, 2013, 11:43 AM

    Spoke to Vince this morning who went out last night to demo some bikes.  He said the 27.5 hardtail was incredible and stiff in all the right places.  Blew away his HT epic 29er race bike.  TA front and rear with tapered head tube. loved it.

    looks like GIANT is fully committed to the 27.5 lineup for 2014 with every model now coming in 27.5 plus some new models.  I heard they were cutting out their top of the line 29er FS rigs, betting on the 27.5's to take off as the next big thing.

    Any idea if they will have there new 27.5" lineup with them?

    http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/07/mtb/giant-goes-all-in-with-27-5-inch-wheels-in-2014-off-road-line_297570

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    TheMayor1
    Trail Steward - CamRock
    Trail Steward
    608-772-7833

    August 15, 2013, 11:49 AM

    Spoke to Vince this morning who went out last night to demo some bikes.  He said the 27.5 hardtail was incredible and stiff in all the right places.  Blew away his HT epic 29er race bike.  TA front and rear with tapered head tube. loved it.

    looks like GIANT is fully committed to the 27.5 lineup for 2014 with every model now coming in 27.5 plus some new models.  I heard they were cutting out their top of the line 29er FS rigs, betting on the 27.5's to take off as the next big thing.

    Any idea if they will have there new 27.5" lineup with them?

    http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/07/mtb/giant-goes-all-in-with-27-5-inch-wheels-in-2014-off-road-line_297570
    Cool! I wish I could have made it over there myself. It is interesting to watch where this trend is going...


    ~ Chuck Hutchens


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    August 15, 2013, 11:53 AM

    Spoke to Vince this morning who went out last night to demo some bikes.  He said the 27.5 hardtail was incredible and stiff in all the right places.  Blew away his HT epic 29er race bike.  TA front and rear with tapered head tube. loved it.

    looks like GIANT is fully committed to the 27.5 lineup for 2014 with every model now coming in 27.5 plus some new models.  I heard they were cutting out their top of the line 29er FS rigs, betting on the 27.5's to take off as the next big thing.

    Any idea if they will have there new 27.5" lineup with them?

    http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/07/mtb/giant-goes-all-in-with-27-5-inch-wheels-in-2014-off-road-line_297570

    Sign Nater and Blackbike up for sure


    ~ Burn rubber


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    Nate W.
    Club Raconteur

    August 15, 2013, 12:28 PM

    I'm set with 29er for now, thanks. 

    There are a lot of sexy 27.5 bikes hitting the market right now though.

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    TheMayor1
    Trail Steward - CamRock
    Trail Steward
    608-772-7833

    August 15, 2013, 12:37 PM

    I'm set with 29er for now, thanks. 

    There are a lot of sexy 27.5 bikes hitting the market right now though.
    A lot of time to change your mind before next springs riding season, and the "gotta get some new carbon" itch hits hard ;D


    ~ Chuck Hutchens


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    Nate W.
    Club Raconteur

    August 15, 2013, 12:52 PM

    A lot of time to change your mind before next springs riding season, and the "gotta get some new carbon" itch hits hard ;D

    Any "new carbon itch" would likely involve 29" wheels at this point...

    Niner RIP9RDO
    Ibis Ripley
    Yeti SB95c

    to name a few...

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    Nate W.
    Club Raconteur

    August 15, 2013, 01:26 PM

    And I just got a new fork for my RIP!

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    August 15, 2013, 02:12 PM

    I took the Trance 27.5 out for a lap. Definitely a nice bike, but I'm not about to run out and buy one. Maybe it's my riding style or just more experience on my own bike (HT 29er), but I just didn't feel at home on the full suspension. I imagine something more XC oriented would have been more predictable for me. Does it just take some time to get used to (and take advantage of) the rear squish?

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    August 15, 2013, 02:33 PM

    I took the Trance 27.5 out for a lap. Definitely a nice bike, but I'm not about to run out and buy one. Maybe it's my riding style or just more experience on my own bike (HT 29er), but I just didn't feel at home on the full suspension. I imagine something more XC oriented would have been more predictable for me. Does it just take some time to get used to (and take advantage of) the rear squish?

    I don't know, couple years ago riding Cam Rock in the prairie (with lots of chatter), my brother was killing me with his Hifi Pro 29.  At the time I was on my hardtail Paragon 29, we switched bikes and it was night and day for me.  Ended up buying the same bike, and added (recently) the Rumblefish 29er.  Tight twisty stuff will favor hardtail in my opinion, but everything else, the Hifi Pro gets it done well.  Being able to hammer in the saddle with small bumps being gobbled up is quite the feeling. 


    ~ Burn rubber


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    Gary S
    Board Member, co-Trail Steward Blue Mound SP
    Administrator

    August 15, 2013, 02:40 PM

    Full suspension is pretty much wasted at Cam-Rock. Still, I would have liked to try out the Trance. I was looking at them online but I'm not sure I like any of the builds. It's less expensive than other 27.5 bikes for a reason.

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    Nate W.
    Club Raconteur

    August 15, 2013, 02:43 PM

    From another big bike rider:  The dual suspension kills it everywhere for me lately.  Even in the tight and twisty stuff.  I was having an absolute blast on the rougher sections of singletrack at Wausau on the RIP.  For me, it's all about a more solid feeling bike...unfortunately, at most budgets, that adds up to a heavier bike.  I'm talking 20mm TA fork, heavier rims/wheels, big knobby tires.  The solid feeling gives me more predictability and confidence, allowing me to push the bike faster and harder.  Granted, I'm 215 pounds geared up to ride these days and not built like your average cyclist.

    Getting used to riding a duallie takes some time...it also takes some time to tune the shocks (front and rear) to your weight, riding style, preferences.  I would argue that it takes substantially more time than a demo truck mechanic quickly setting the sag and sending you on your way.  I'm thinking multiple laps at QR incrementally changing shock pressures and damping settings.

    For reference, my bike is a Niner Rip9 (115mm travel rear end with a 120-140mm fork).   So I'd put it in the same class as a Trance. 

    Aren't the big bikes slower going up hill you might ask?  Maybe, but I'm slower uphill on a hardtail (than the fast XC whippets) too.

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    Nate W.
    Club Raconteur

    August 15, 2013, 02:45 PM

    Full suspension is pretty much wasted at Cam-Rock.

    I'll disagree with this...for me, full suspension really shines on fast bumpy stuff.  I'm talking Kettle Moraine, Wausau, Cam-Rock.  I really enjoyed riding a rigid bike at Blue Mound when I still had one.  You just had to change your expectations about the ride...more slow trials-like picking than blasting through the rough stuff.

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